Sunday, April 1, 2012

How Fullerton Lost the Norton Simon Museum

The following is an excerpt from an article that will appear in the forthcoming issue of Hibbleton Independent magazine. It was written by Fullerton College student Nataly Palma. Images courtesy of the Launer Local History Room of the Fullerton Public Library.

In the middle of the 20th century, Norton Simon created a multi-million dollar business (Hunt Foods), and with his grand wealth, he accumulated one of the most impressive private art collections in the world. Works by Picasso, Van Gogh, Vermeer, Degas, and other masters grace the walls of his collection's permanent home, the Norton Simon Museum in Pasadena, CA. As one enters the doors, viewers are greeted by a vast collection of Degas' famous ballerina sculptures and Rodin's The Burghers of Calais. It's hard to imagine the collection in any other city, but if not for the short-sightedness of City Council, Fullerton would have been the home of Simon's priceless collection.

Norton Simon's roots were deeply embedded in Fullerton, CA when early on in his life he invested in the Hunt Foods Company and turned it into a successful business. For many years, Simon (a resident of Fullerton) displayed his priceless collection in the Hunt offices, placing Rodin and Giacometti sculptures outside on the lawn, and hanging works by Van Gogh, Picasso, and Raphael in the Hunt Branch Library on Commonwealth, which he gifted to the city of Fullerton.

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Simon also displayed his growing art collection at the Hunt Branch Library in exhibits for the annual Night in Fullerton celebration.

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Simon needed a permanent home for his prized possessions, and the obvious choice was Fullerton. He offered the city a start-up gift of half a million dollars in 1964, asking in return that the city provide the land and security.

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But the City Council argued that they could not afford the security guards, the Fullerton School Board argued that it needed the land for a bus depot, and local homeowners were also not too keen on the idea. Instead of embracing the proposed museum, Fullerton politicians and residents (with the exception of some local artists and gallerists) argued and complained.

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Simon's offered, as a location for the Museum, the Hunt Branch library, which he had already gifted to city. He also planned to purchase several houses on the same street, to make room for the Museum. But the City Council did not approve the project.

After two years of waiting for Fullerton to approve his project, Simon took the hint, and took his collection elsewhere, to Pasadena, though Fullerton had clearly been his first choice.

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Local artist Marjorie Kerr, who was living in Fullerton during the Norton Simon Museum loss, remembers this incident with sadness. "I don't' think we'll ever know the truth about why it didn't happen," she said in a recent interview in her Fullerton studio, "It was here, you could see the sculptures, and suddenly it was gone."

Though the truth may be buried in complexities of the past, we might speculate possible reasons for this unfathomable blunder. Fullerton, during the 1960s, was a very conservative place and modern artwork might have been seen as something that might attract "the wrong crowd." As a gallery owner myself, I know and understand the difficulty of getting politically and socially conservative folks to embrace modern art. Let us hope that, with understanding, Fullerton leaders and residents will not repeat the terrible mistakes of the past.

38 comments:

  1. Alexa Romero
    English 103
    Mon/Wed 08:35

    The biggest thing that caught my attention on this entry was the fact that the city of Fullerton was so opposed to letting Norton Simon to open up his museum. Simon was offering so much. Not only was he offering so much money to this city but he was bringing art to this city. A beautiful city that should not have a problem in offering more to the neighborhood. It can never be a bad thing to expand your knowledge about art and culture. What the city of Fullerton had not been thinking of was that this museum could bring so much to the city as far as profit and more tourists to the city just to see this beautiful art. My personal opinion on their decision is that they should have at least given it a temporary chance to see the outcome of it. I feel that they were very bias from the start about Simons idea to open the Museum up. This museum would have been a gift to the city of Fullerton because of all the art around it. What I do not completely understand is why they did not have the problem to grant him his wish to build up the library he put in, being that I am sure it was at great value to Fullerton – I don’t see the difference of letting him build his art museum. I think it was a great idea that Simon did not give up on his dream to build a museum and fill it with beautiful art. Fullerton denied his wonderful offer therefore leaving him to chose a different city leading him to the city of Pasadena, Ca and granting them a great addition to their city where apparently are more open to see and learn about different artist. I do not think anyone now will ever know the exact reason why Fullerton did not want him to build hid museum there but I am sure at this point they know it was a mistake. People will always have their own opinions on art and different culture because some are so narrow minded and look down on things like that, but to those who are not I am sure have learned a lot and continued to learn about new and modern art. I am confident that if Fullerton had this offer again by anyone with great ideas like Simon, they would not deny them.

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  2. Michelle Carter
    La Tour
    English 103
    9 February 2012
    Blog Response #1
    The possible reason why Fullerton did not accept the Norton Simon Museum at the end of the this blog seems very accurate and ironic. If Fullerton's previous conservative residents could see Fullerton today they would be appalled. Around every corner, on almost every street, and every other store is a tattoo shop. Around every corner and on almost every street houses a bar. They tried to prevent one type of modern art to be replaced by an eclectic variety of artwork.
    Personally I do not see anything wrong with tattoos, bars, and piercings. I see these types of art as a way to express oneself. To me this type of artwork is beautiful. But the artwork of Picasso, Van Gogh, Vermeer, and Degas is beyond beautiful. Those are artistic master pieces that should be seen by the world. If it was not for their aesthetic principles, the artists today would not have anything to learn from. They are a part of history and every child and adult should have a chance to learn about them. The Norton Simon Museum would have done just that.
    Many young adults are naive when it comes to the work of these famous artists. As a child I was fortunate enough to go to a school that provided history on all of the major famous artists. The Night With The Masters was an art appreciation assembly held by the school, four times a year, showcasing and teaching all of the students the famous works of art. These artworks included the Mona Lisa by Da Vinci, Starry Night by Van Gogh, and the Creation of Adam by Michelangelo. Towards the end of the assembly we were able to try and re-create the works of art. This was probably my favorite time of the year. Art appreciation is important to children and adults because it helps to teach the different cultures, it teaches you to see things differently, and it shows you the different forms of expressing yourself. Without art what is beauty. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. What is beautiful to one person is not beautiful to another person. The Norton Simon Museum would of given the residents of Fullerton the option to learn about other cultures in different times. As well as being able to see beauty through someone else's eyes. It would of expanded the minds of children and given them insight on who they are in society.

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  3. Amber Roh
    La Tour
    English 103

    It is surprising to know that Fullerton could have had a museum with pieces of art that date back to centuries ago if it weren't for City Council. Norton Simon's permanent residence in Pasadena is filled with pieces done by some of the most familiar and great artist in art history, like; Van Gogh, Picasso, Vermeer, etc. The City Council, at the time, feared the type of crowd that would be attract people to the city and art which suggests a negative outlook on creative and unique people. It seems like City Council wanted to keep Fullerton a conservative city and avoid any changes as well as cultural differences. Tattoos are one style of body art that people love to color their skin with. Individuals with art on themselves sometimes seem strange to or different to others, which is probably the way that the Council thought of art-lookers. It seems to be that anything unique or creative can be negatively presented when all it really is, is different. Art represents culture and styles of different times and it's sad to know that Fullerton had the opportunity to have a museum that would open up people's perspectives of art.
    It's amazing that Norton Simon was a self-made millionaire with his own business and funded his own museum as well as art pieces. Simon only asked for the protection of his pieces to be funded by the city but he would provide the rest of the art exhibit. This excerpt makes me wonder about how different Fullerton would be if an art exhibit with pieces by historically famous artists were to be opened up. Students study textbook photos of the great masterpieces of Van Gogh and Picasso, as well as analyze the techniques they utilize when creating a piece but having some of their pieces in a museum in my hometown would have been greatly appreciated. I’m not a huge art person and don’t know much about the history of it but I do appreciate art and museums because it is pleasant to look at and notice different styles between different artists. At least Fullerton still has an edgy/artsy feel at downtown even without a museum that could have been built in the 60s.

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  4. Johnny Escalante
    English 103
    Jesse LaTour
    February 10, 2013
    Mon/Wed 08:35
    I am still very curious why the city of Fullerton did not allow for Simon to have his museum in his hometown of Fullerton. That would have been really awesome to have a museum locally with many pieces of art from legendary artists. There is no blaming Simon for taking his art elsewhere because most people would not have waited that long for a response from the city. It really is Fullerton’s loss because from a business standpoint, it could have brought in a lot of money just because of the art of famous artist like: Picasso and Van Gogh. There are many people that are uneducated when it comes to art and this idea of bringing such a master collection to the city of Fullerton would have just expanded the minds of students and older people as well. Even today it is still unclear why Simon wasn’t granted permission, but maybe it was just a business decision that there just wasn’t any room for his museum. Fullerton in my opinion had other priorities to take care of. It would have been pretty cool to have a museum because it would show many styles of culture back in the day. I’ve never been an art person but having this museum here would have probably should have taught me things I didn’t know today. From reading this I would have never known about a possible museum that would’ve existed here in Fullerton. Now a days many art museums are in the Los Angeles area and with gas prices this high, it makes people not even bother to head down there. To this day I don’t think anyone will really know why the city of Fullerton denied Norton Simons museums request but they truly missed out on a gem. Now Pasadena is enjoying a museum with many art works from famous artist that Fullerton could have had. Just from looking at the pictures of the art collection that Norton Simon, it amazes me of the cool art work that I would only picture to be in Italy and the rest of Europe. From reading this, I have also learned a part of Fullerton history and I’m sure others will agree also. Norton Simon was a brilliant man that never gave up on his goal that he eventually accomplished in Pasadena California.

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  5. Jessica Sanchez
    English 103
    Jesse LaTour
    February 10, 2013
    Mon/Wed 08:35
    In this article I learned apart of history of Fullerton history that I had no idea existed. Norton Simons was a home town kid that wanted to leave a part of his dreams in his home town of Fullerton. I still wonder why the city of Fullerton denied Norton Simons request, to build a museum with so much art work that many people would love to see today. Art work by Picasso and van Gogh is rarely seen today and just having the thought of their art work here in Fullerton is really amusing. Art work today expresses many ideas, cultures, expressions and history of the past that we today can visualize. Norton Simon’s collection of art work would have expanded lots of knowledge to students and adults that many of us don’t have. If that museum was here today, the city of Fullerton would be benefiting from their investment in the mid 20th century because of many tourists that would be flocking this museum. The city of Fullerton made a really bad decision on denying this museum. Nobody really knows the real reason but maybe an art museum was just not in the city’s plans for the future. In my opinion the museum would have brought a lot of businesses without a doubt. This museum would have given the city of Fullerton an opportunity to learn the different cultures and art works. The city Fullerton denied a very talented guy that tried his best to keep a piece of history in his know city but was not successful. Even though he did not succeed in Fullerton he was able to accomplish his goal in the city of Pasadena. Like most people in the city of Fullerton, it would have been nice to have a local museum with many awesome pieces of art. Instead we have to drive far away and waste gas to go to some art museums in southern California. I learned a little bit of Fullerton’s past history and will continue to learn more eventually. This article on Norton Simon was an effective piece of writing because it is teaching people like my self a small part of history that most students may not know about. Now the city of Fullerton is without a well known museum while Pasadena residents are enjoying a beautiful art museum with plenty of history.

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  6. Grisell Garcia
    Eng 103 MW 835am
    Blog Response #1
    I have lived in Orange County my whole life, and being able to look back at historical is really intriguing. One fact I found to be valuable was that Orange County was part of Los Angeles County at one point, slowly and slowly people would move out here because housed were cheaper. Nowadays I guess it would be like people moving out to Riverside because of the prices being “cheaper” than out here. But back then it seemed as this was the cheaper place to move out to, making it hard to believe that today Orange County ranks in the top 30 best economies in the world. That’s impressive. After the war Cities were being industrialized and small towns became bigger. Cities like Irvine and Laguna Niguel were being developed more modernly while old townes like Orange and Fullerton stuck to their small business but kept growing. In the blog “How Fullerton lost the Nortan Simon Museum” it was said that Fullerton was a more conservative town and denied the museum because the city was unsure of the attention the museum would attract and how the town will become after that. I’m sure now it would have been a nice thing to have here in a town nearby to where I live. This goes to show how even in the same county every city has their own taste of how they want their city to develop. I dislike seeing how beautiful open areas are being ruined just to add these new communities, so in a way I’m sure that’s how Fullerton residents back then felt about their city being put on a spot light like that. History is very interesting. People go on living their lives without knowing that the very own Nortan Simon creator of Hunt lived in Fullerton. I don’t even live in Fullerton and I find that to be cool,Not only that but reading the first chapter of Post Suburban California has really opened my eye to how cities change and how they keep changing. I often wondered how things would be in the future, and as I get to experience I learn more and more about the future, but what I’ve really been missing out on is what was here before. I’m living on what used to be land to grow oranges, now its homes to many families. With that being said, I am anxious to see how the city I grew up in has become one of the most visited cities in the nation by tourist, The beautiful city of Anaheim.

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  7. Jazmin Diaz
    English 103
    T/TR 7-8:25am
    To start off I learn something new and very interesting from our history, a very powerful and well created, The Norton Simon Museum. It’s crazy how the city Fullerton, where I attend school, would have taken Simon’s priceless collection as their home. It makes me realize how little of me I’m actually living. I’m living in such a close atmosphere, in my so call “own little world.” When in reality there are so many little things of history around me and I don’t even know about. I believe history is hard to be around, but I’m so close to it, to this Norton Simon Museum that would have made history In Fullerton. To top it off, not only the museum has made history but Simon a resident of Fullerton, had works done by Van Gosh, Picasso and Raphael. Famous arts were at his museum and made paintings at Fullerton. The problem that I didn’t understand why the city of Fullerton didn’t Simons museum stay. Simon was over throwing himself by offering a good amount of money to the city and producing a good cause. Through all of his effort, politicians and residents still argued and complain about the situation. He even offered to purchase houses on the same street to make room, with his own money. Yet again, he still got denied. In my opinion, if I was Simon, I would of went somewhere else and actually get approve and hopefully the city of Fullerton would have realize they made a huge mistake of denying him. That’s exactly what he did, the approval was finally set from Fullerton, but he went elsewhere, Pasadena. That right there shows me no matter what the situation is, or how many times you get turned down, that bright moment will soon come. It’s not ones lose, its there’s. As I read this article a few times to truly understand it well, I’m not one hundred percentages sure why Fullerton didn’t let this museum stay. One of my opinions would be that, back then, the residents made a huge effect towards Fullerton. They were either against Simon or the art itself. Like segregation between what they thought “right” art was to them. Other than that, if that museum was here today at Fullerton, I would of gone seen it after reading this article. Not only myself, but I believe that museum would have made things so different here in Fullerton today. So many more people would see art different, with soul.

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  8. Isaac Nunez

    English 103

    Jesse La Tour

    February 10, 2013

    M/W 8:35

    It is truly astonishing that Fullerton could’ve had a museum full of fine arts, especially art that was created by artists such as Picasso, Vermeer, Degas, and other masters. The artist that caught my attention the most was Picasso because I never was a never a true admirer of art. The fact that the name Picasso and his art were going to be admired in the city of Fullerton, I knew it was going to be a big deal. I was surprised how the city of Fullerton continuously ignored Norton Simons proposal of half a million dollars just to build the museum in the first place. I know that Simons only wanted his fine arts to be watched and guarded in return for building the museum, so that might be the issue why Fullerton didn’t want to astonish the museum in the first place. I believe the biggest question to this day is what was the real reason why the city of Fullerton did not want to establish the museum. When Simon finally was fed up, tired, and ready to move on and take his pieces of art somewhere else was the best bet. Simon just wanted the art of many famous Artists to be admired. No one could blame Simon for taking his artwork to the city of Pasadena. However, even though Simon wanted to establish the museum in Fullerton he knew it was the best bet to take his artwork to Pasadena. Who would’ve known what stories a city has to offer. If I never read this article, I possibly would’ve never known that the streets that I roam of Fullerton could have contained a museum. There was probably a political mess attempting to hope for a museum to be built but at the end of the day we’re all going to know that Fullerton had its chance to establish a museum with an offer from Norton Simon. The city of Pasadena will now be able to embrace the fine arts of many great artists because of Norton Simon now.

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  10. Jihun Go
    English 103
    Jessa La Tour
    Mon/Wed 08:35
    It is sad that Fullerton lost a great museum with priceless art works few decade ago. I cannot believe that Fullerton council did not approve Simon`s project that building a museum for his priceless collections. His collections involved great artist such as Van Gogh, Picasso, and etc. Their art works are very important historically and artistically. If the City of Fullerton would approve Simon`s project to build a museum for these great art works, Fullerton would provide inspiration people artistically, and the museum might be good place to education for students. Moreover, I really sorry to Simon. He wanted his museum in Fullerton that his hometown. He might be very disappoint to city when they did not approve it. But it was not his fault. He was not the one who be blamed. Fullerton lost a big chance to be a city that many outside of city people visits because of past mistake. I think that this post is good even though wiring is not long enough to explain detail. Author include pictures and newspaper articles about the incident to explain how Fullerton lost, and this way that using picture and newspapers in a writing is efficient. Like me, none native, especially, pictures is easier to understand than letters sometimes. I like to go museum to see drawings and sculptures. When Galileo Galilei`s notes and sculptures exhibited in Getty museum, I went there. These were beautiful. It was nice experience. I have been Getty, Huntington Museum, Natural Museum, and etc, but I have not known that Pasadena Museum with Norton Simon`s great collections before I read this post. This post not only gives information why Fullerton lost Simon`s great art works, but also it advertises the museum in Pasadena. Furthermore, I learned history of Fullerton, which is very relative to me. It was interesting.

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  11. Khalide Khandaker
    English 103
    M/W 8:35 am
    When I was reading the article first thing came to my mind was “what a looser?” I personally think this a great loss for city of Fullerton both culturally and financially. Fullerton the city we know would have been totally different if City of Fullerton gave Norton Simon to establish his museum in Fullerton. Similar thing happened to City of Garden Grove. When Walt Disney wanted to make a theme park in Orange Country his first choice was Garden Grove, but City of Garden Grove did not want to have a place where hundreds of people came every day and destroy city’s natural habitat. However, City of Anaheim took the opportunity and now city of Anaheim is one of the richest cities in Orange County because of Walt Disney’s Disneyland the happiest place on earth. If Fullerton didn’t let Norton Simon go it would have been similar to Fullerton maybe not much financially but great deal culturally. Fullerton could have been the cultural headquarter of Orange County.

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  12. Peter Vuong
    Eng 103
    Jesse LaTour
    M/W 8:30

    It is obvious that the city council of Fullerton at the time of this event were very shortsighted. I feel as if Norton Simon was cheated by his hometown. For a man to put so much effort and energy into his community and to be shot down like he was is sad. If the Norton Simon museum had been established I think Fullerton would have had a different vibe and some sense of achievement. The city needs something that can help it grow and prosper, it seemed that is what Norton wanted. Norton’s art collection attracted many people; no doubt it would have attracted even more today. This was not just any ordinary art, this was art was some of the most significant ever. However I think there was a bigger issue than what was said in the blog, there must have been a different reason the city refused such a lavish offer. Maybe the City really was too conservative and did not want to attract the wrong crowd or attention. I think people during his era were simply not very appreciative of art itself and did not have any sense of creativity. Reading this really opened my eyes and made me realize how mind-boggling Norton offers really was. This man was taken for granted; someone with that wealth today would never offer things such as that in this era. The city of Fullerton could have been noticed for something that no other city could have claimed. I personally have been to the Hunt branch library many times and it would have been cool to admire prestigious art as a youngster. The library itself has such a unique structure and the art would have complemented it very well. Most residents of Fullerton don't really know what they missed out on; this museum would have been a great addition for all the art lovers out there. Museum or no museum this is relevant to us because it shows us how passionate people are about the culture of art. The big picture here is that the art still exist and is still being appreciated by people today. Norton Simon was clearly very passionate about art and wanted to share it with his community, his futile attempt is significant because it shows how different times were back in his time. Being a long time resident of Fullerton, I think it would have been cool to see Fullerton recognized for its artsy culture instead of the flock of blithering drunks on weekends.

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  13. When I was reading the article first thing came to my mind was “what a looser?” I personally think this a great loss for city of Fullerton both culturally and financially. Fullerton the city we know would have been totally different if City of Fullerton gave Norton Simon to establish his museum in Fullerton. Similar thing happened to City of Garden Grove. When Walt Disney wanted to make a theme park in Orange Country his first choice was Garden Grove, but City of Garden Grove did not want to have a place where hundreds of people came every day and destroy city’s natural habitat. However, City of Anaheim took the opportunity and now city of Anaheim is one of the richest cities in Orange County because of Walt Disney’s Disneyland the happiest place on earth. If Fullerton didn’t let Norton Simon go it would have been similar to Fullerton maybe not much financially but great deal culturally. If we look at the Norton Simon Museum of Pasadena it can make anybody who appreciates good art joules. They have art work from 14th century to modern era. The museum has art work from Vincent van Gogh, Pablo Picasso, Peter Paul Rubens, Jacopo Bassano you name it. People of Orange County are missing out a lot Fullerton could have been the cultural headquarter of Orange County, but that is not happening any time soon. sorry previous one is too short please ignore that thanks

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  14. Mirna Venegas
    English 103
    Jessa La Tour
Mon/Wed 08:35
    In this article, As we can see Orange County has grown and expanded throughout the years. The city of fullerton is filled with architecture and marvelous one of a kind sculptures people have donated to the city of Fullerton. Reading this article made me open my eyes to all the antic sculptures lurking around down town Fullerton. It has always been around, but you wouldn't think it has been in our town for over fifty years. Im impressed on how many power artist such as Picasso, Van Gogh, Vermeer, Degas, and other great artists had pieces of art in Norton Simon’s permanent home. Norton Simon tried to promote his artwork with the city of Fullerton but the city denied his request. After two years of waiting for Fullerton to approve, the city counsel said they could not afford security for the museum and the lack of budget was the main reason for rejection. Therefore, he decided to move to Pasadena where he had the opportunity to expand his art collection. I learned the the city of Fullerton in the 1960’s was a hot spot for modern art on the streets after the city counsel excepted artist’s individuality. On hot spot in Fullerton was the Hunts Branch Library, that is where Norton felt like he should expand his art for everyone to see. By reading this article, I am now aware of all the museums in which I did not know even existed. I truly enjoy going to museums and getting lost in its history. There is so much to learn about our city we live in, our roots is what made this city the way it is. Our historical background is key to not repeating mistakes do in the past, so its important to be educated. I glad the city of Fullerton did not give up on art throughout the city because art is a free expression obtained in each individual. And without it, I believe that we would be a boring city unlike the vibrant, full of life city we live in today.

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  15. Ana Maria Najera
    La tour
    English 103 mon/wed 835 am

    I liked his writting i never knew fullerton had some good history. The bad part about it is that we couldnt have it here in fullerton but have it go to pasadena for them to enjoy. I learned alot of history about Norton Simon because i never knew who he was. Know that i see he had a great art collection that he like sharing with everyone and he has a good company that he joined. I couldnt beleive that in 1964 he has going to give the city of fullerton half a million dollars if they just provided the land for his collection. Yet the city didnt want to do it because of the city ciuncil arguments, if that was me i would of definetly have done it because of the experience alone. The city took to long and just like him i would of taken my things else where. If the city doesnt want the collection and kept arguing about it and all they cared about is politics thats why Norton took his collectiong then thats a bad lost.

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  16. Mayra Venegas
    English 103
    MW 8:30am-10:00am
    From reading this passage, I have learned great things about the City of Fullerton. Fullerton offers great monuments and architecture for citizens and tourist to enjoy. Mr. Simon was a well-known man in which he tried to accomplish great things in his city. He had great ideas to display piece of artwork in a museum for the public to see. He asks the city council if he could display his artwork in a museum and they denied his request. They said there were not enough budgets to pay security to guard the museum. Therefore, he didn’t give up on his ideas and perused this art in Pasadena. By having the museum will had a huge crowd to Fullerton and the neighborhood would not appreciate having the tourism around, not knowing what a terrible. Simon’s displayed his art sculptures of Roden, Giacotti, Van Gogh, Picasso, and Raphael in the Hunt offices and in the Hunt branch library on Commonwealth. The offered the city of Fullerton half a million dollars in 1964 and in return the city would have to provide the land and security. Simmons didn’t want to show off his art but instead he wanted the people in the community to pay attention what art is about.

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  17. Cheyenne Farrell
    English 103
    Tues/Thurs

    Its unbelieveable that the city council and residents opposed the idea of this art museum. I don't understand why people could not want such great and beautiful pieces of art to be displaced right here in there own community.
    With this taking place during the 1960's and everyone being conservative, not willing to accept change and to make such assumptions about bringing the wrong crowd around, it's so weird to me. This would have been a wonderful asset for the city of Fullerton to have. But what makes it really hard to believe is that, Norton Simon was just some rich man trying to come to town and open this muesum, but he himself was a local of Fullerton and even lived there for serveral years.
    This muesum could have brought money and even a better name to the city. If this were to take place during current times, I dont even this the city council or local community would even stop to think about building the muesum and just say yes to the idea. Now with Fullerton's downtown area being so developed and popular among all ages, this type of muesum would have been ideal. Especially since there is the Fullerton Art walk that takes place and other local artist venues and events. It just makes so much since now to have built that muesum in Fullerton. But that is the different between now and then...even if Fullerton didn't have the downtown area I think people would still like the idea and accept the change as to where back in the 1960's there was no way they were going to accept thos change. I think this article just shows how much society has changed. Now it is so easy for people and society to accept weird and new things that happpen around the whole world but especially locally. Our minds are open to so many more ideas... and with everyone wanting to unique and different from one another.
    Its said that Fullerton lost this opportunity back in the day, but it just shows the growth of society form then till now. I feel like without change or acceptance of new things, then we can never learn or grow as indivuals and as a whole society.

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  18. English 103 Monday/Wednesday at 8:35-10:00 am
    Ivy Beaton
    The thing that caught my attention about this article is the fact that the city of Fullerton would turn away such an amazing place that would bring profit to the city. Simon had a lot of money to offer to bring his pieces of art work into the city and he only asked for a few things in return. Unfortunately, Fullerton could not do their part and some of the people who lived in Fullerton disagreed with the museum being in Fullerton. I think that having art in a city is what makes it a place of history. It’s where you can take your friends, family, or lover to and feel inspired and learn history. I have personally never heard of this place, and it’s a shame that I haven’t. I enjoy looking at art work, and would have put good use to that place. The Simon art museum had great potential and people who didn’t appreciate the art and what it would have valued should think twice before making a quick judgment. Another reason why Fullerton missed out on a great deal is the fact that most museums are in LA and with the gas prices going up, it’s hard for people to want to travel there to see the museums. If Fullerton would have accepted the offer, more people within the community and people within the surrounding communities would be able to travel to the museum in Fullerton and not spend a lot of money of gas to get there. Also, Fullerton missed out because the art works of Picasso and Van Gogh and the other ones that were listed in the article are very rare and would be a great contribution to the city of Fullerton. I have never seen an original of either of Van Gogh’s or Picasso’s work and it would have been a great experience. The Fullerton city council should have reconsidered their rejection to the museum. Simon grew up in Fullerton and wanted to add a piece of his own self into the city he grew up in. Unfortunately for Simon, he had to take his art works and go to Pasadena and open up the museum there. This proves that when one door closes the other one opens. There will always be other opportunities for everyone as long as you keep hope alive. In the end, Fullerton did accept Simon’s agreement but Simon moved on to a different location. I think this will show the city of Fullerton to think wisely before deciding on something so important. You don’t know what you have until it’s gone.

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  19. “How Fullerton Lost the Norton Simon Museum” is very interesting and inspiring I think. I think art is a beautiful creation made by mankind. Most people don’t take the time to appreciate art and its beauty. There are many different forms of art and I believe Graffiti is a form of art even though most people classify it as “vandalism”. It’s sad to see that Fullerton did not accept the proposed deal by Norton, even though he offered half a million dollars. I think the art museum would have brought more tourists to Fullerton to view the different art forms Norton had to offer. Some of the best artists were displayed in the Norton Simon museum such as Van Gogh, Picasso, Vermeer and Degas. That would have been a privilege to see if Fullerton would have accepted Norton’s proposal to bring the museum to his hometown rather than sending it to Pasadena. Who knows what the reason is why Fullerton City Council did not take this opportunity and bring something unique to the city and no one will probably know why. It will remain a mystery among the city of Fullerton. I hope Fullerton and even Orange County does not make another horrible decision like this one ever again and will consider bringing something that can grab the peoples’ attention and bring them to Orange County.
    Before I read this blog, I did not know anything about the Norton Simon Museum and its plan to bring it to Fullerton. I think that it is great we are learning about the history of Fullerton and Orange County itself. I have lived in Orange County all my life and do not know very much about it. That baffles me at times and it’s great to see that we will be learning it and reading a book about it as well. I am looking forward to this class and honestly, this is the only class I am excited about since attending Fullerton College. I look forward to the field trips we will be taking to Downtown Fullerton. I drive through Downtown a lot so it wouldn’t to learn about it and also explore it as well. I hope, later on in the future, that Orange County will bring something unique to their cities and attract people to come and explore Orange County because it is a one of a kind county and that’s a fact I believe.
    Jose Flores
    English 103
    T/R 7:00-8:25 am.

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  20. The main thing that stood out to me was the fact that Fullerton thought that by having a museum in their city, it might attract “the wrong crowd”. That to me makes no sense, even if your city is really conservative, how could bringing historic art to the city cause any problems. Most people that go to an art museum go because they are admiring the work. I have actually been to the Norton Simon Museum a couple times and each time I go, I learn something new about each artist or a specific painting. A museum is a visual representation of history; there is so much to learn from paintings and sculptures. Unfortunately Pasadena is a long drive from my home but if it was much closer I would be able to visit it more often and Fullerton would have been a great place for this museum. It’s unfortunate that Fullerton failed to see the great opportunities this museum could have brought to their city. It almost as if the city of Fullerton didn’t want us to know about the great painting and sculptures that Simon would have brought to it. It understandable for a city to complain about a club or a bar back in the day but Fullerton is an ever-changing city it’s constantly expanding and creating new shops and bars across the city. I guess the people that were living during the time of the debate were to close minded to see the many advantages that would have came from keeping the museum in Fullerton. As I mentioned before Fullerton is an ever-changing city and although it missed the opportunity of having a great museum in their city, the city still has much room for growth. Fullerton should consider building a museum. I think building a museum in Fullerton would create a new appreciation for art that was lost in the past. I hope to see a museum in Fullerton one day, when it comes to expanding your knowledge of history, I think there should be no barriers. No one should stop us from expanding our knowledge. Just like Fullerton is expanding my city is also is expanding and I hope that if my small town has the opportunity to have a museum they are able to see the many advantages that it could bring. That’s just my opinion but I do believe Fullerton lost a great museum.

    Manuel Martinez
    T/Th 7:00am
    English 103

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  21. Last year, my Art teacher gave us a list of museums to check out for our Art Analysis paper. His major picks were LACMA, Getty’s in Los Angeles, and of course the Norton Simon. In class, he always brought up mesmerizing paintings found in these museums. After reading this article, I was sad, yet depressed, of the loss the town of Fullerton faced just because the school districts needed space for their buses. Renowned museums filled with extraordinarily colorful, whimsical art are captured by the eyes of art lovers all over the world. Cities like Los Angeles, New York, and Paris are put on map also for their renowned collection of World Art brought from all over. As a Picasso fan myself, I would have been enthralled to see extraordinary pieces from him in my own backyard. By agreeing with the idea of opening the Norton Simon, the City of Fullerton would have reached a milestone in business from tourists all over the nation and of course the WORLD!!!! Cities like Newport Beach, Anaheim, Irvine, Pasadena, and Los Angeles all have some attraction that appeals to the masses all over. Because of this, these cities are infested with tourists, and have created their name in Southern California.
    Norton Simon today is extremely known for carrying wide assortments of paintings, including Picasso all the way to Degas and Van Gogh. Its popularity isn’t shadowed by The Gettys and LACMA, but is along the same line as them. Back in the 1960s, Norton Simon, a fellow admirer of Fullerton, dreamed of displaying his collection there so local residents can capture the magic of each painting. Because of his profound love towards the city, it was a major disappointment when the city councils willingly threw down his offer. What didn’t come to their consideration was the immense popularity Norton could have brought, in addition to business. Simon was doing more than a favor. Because of the city’s foolishness and greediness towards land, they missed a major milestone. Maybe today council members regret the foolish act of the politicians back then; nevertheless opportunities like this are endless. Fullerton is home to diverse ethnicities and culture. Any generous individual, who is profoundly in love with the city, will attempt to promote Fullerton by opening galleries and exhibits, but hopefully members, as well as residents and school districts, will think twice before being Reluctant. Hopefully!!!!



    Mariam Lakhani English 103
    t/r

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  22. Michael Flynn
    Tues/Thurs 7am
    English 103

    After reading about Mr. Norton Simon’s Museum not being in Fullerton, it really got me thinking what else our city could have that it doesn’t because of human error. Clearly Simon wanted it in Fullerton, the article says he was a resident for many years and his first choice was Fullerton. I don’t understand why the city council didn’t give the approval for the museum. Having the museum would attract visitors and tourists to the area, which in turn would bring in profit to only make the city wealthier.
    The City of Fullerton is known or having colleges and bars. It would be a lot better off if you could throw in there a museum with artwork from the most famous artists: Van Gogh, Picasso, etc. If Fullerton’s city council had a chance to do it all over today, would the outcome be the same?
    One can’t fault Simon for taking it to Pasadena, I would do the same if someone is rejecting me, I would also look for someone else to benefit. There is so much to learn about Fullerton and Orange County in general. I have lived in Anaheim my whole life and grown up in Fullerton and am excited to learn so much about my hometown’s rich and unique history.

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  23. Jordan Murillo
    ENG 103 T/R 7-8:25am
    Reading this essay about Fullerton loosing Norton Simon Museum is really disappointing. When I say I am disappointed I mean that I am very disgusted by the citizens of Fullerton during the occurring event. Fullerton is really missing out on what would have been the most valuable piece of culture enriching art into so many citizens’ lives. There were so many great artists in stock and we tossed it away like trash. Why couldn’t there be some genuine involvement on the Fullerton’s end? What were they thinking? Could you imagine what the Art Walks would be like if Fullerton had the Norton Simon Museum? How ironic that a city who long ago denied Norton Simon Museum- is now a driven occupation of enriching art! I suppose it was a time when the demand for doctors, lawyers, technicians, teachers, and etc. were high. No one believed in the arts and people were not so open to what art was about. Art shared no purpose or had no importance. From what I recall in the essay is that people were afraid it might bring in the wrong crowd. Well they were right on that one! I agree that it might have been an increasingly big change. I would not call it being a “wrong” kind of change. For example, in present time Fullerton has gained art galleries and shops that partake in the art thrive- have attracted a crowd. I think Fullerton has definitely changed since 1960’s.
    The book, Post Suburban California, had stemmed from the same concept as the Norton Simon Museum article. I am not sure if I understood the reading but I will do my best explaining. Larger cities (example: Los Angeles) are different from the suburban cities (example: Fullerton). The structures of the residential and commercial areas are a product of the meaning of suburban lifestyle. What captured my interest was the point about movie theaters. Movie theaters in larger cities are megaplex theaters that are popular enough to play foreign movies as a selected theater. Everything is built in 1 block radius from residential area. I wish local theaters around the Fullerton area could air foreign film. Let us cross our fingers for FOX THEATER! In larger cities transportation is a demand. Citizens use the bus, the train, the subway, and ride bikes. In suburban areas everyone owns a car. People prefer to drive. For larger cities that have everything close, it is way better to take an easy route of transportation. But for smaller cities it using a car to drive several miles is more convenient. Two different worlds.

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  24. Chelsea Solis
    Eng. 103
    Tues.&Thurs. 7-8:25 AM

    After reading this, I feel a lot of sadness. I'm a bit shocked though that the city council would rebuke Simon's offer. I think the art gallery would have benefited Fullerton in so many ways! Especially now, with the amount of people that go to school/ live in the area, in my opinion would absolutely love it. Though, coming from a pretty reserved city, I understand why the city council wouldn't agree. Diamond Bar is full of Starbucks and grocery stores. The most exciting new thing is the dog park. I doubt the city would ever agree to open an art gallery. Personally, I love everything that has to do with art, what sucks is that you have to drive a bit to get to a decent art gallery. If Simon's art gallery was here I think it would have made so many people happy, and attract tons! Not only for the awesome collection, but because it's so close. What I found really cool was how interested I found this information to be because I go to school here in Fullerton. So just reading about some history on this place is really awesome. I know I said last week talking about the history here would make students care, but holy shit, I found myself even reading the tiny font on the pictures, to find out more. I also really enjoyed the pictures you included, it gave me a nice visual and made it seem like I was living during that time. Norton Simon's created a multi-million dollar business and was from Fullerton! Having such a powerful and successful man from here is really cool, and even better his first choice was to have his art gallery here!!! How awesome would that have been. If this opportunity ever came up again in Fullerton, or even where i'm from, Diamond Bar, I wish nothing more than for the city council to accept. I think things like this would make cities so much better. I believe art lightens up the mood and makes people happy and enjoy life more. Everyone is always occupied on their cell phones or social networking, if people were to look up and enjoy the better things in life, like art or nature, I think it would make things so much better. If this is only one part of Fullerton's history I'm more than excited to read,write, and research more about it!

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  25. Jorge Cruz
    English 103
    TR 7-825

    After reading this article on the Norton Simon Museum, I realized that the city of Fullerton lost an opportunity to have something that could have been a big part of the city. I feel like this museum would have fit well in Fullerton and it is a shame that it wasn’t approved back in 1960. It is strange to me that the city did not want to fund this museum because Fullerton seems like one of those city’s that likes to preserve old buildings and it would have been great to have that museum around right now in the city. I do not understand why the city council passed on an opportunity like this. I think I would actually be more interested in going to this museum if it were in Fullerton. Looking at the different types of art would have been fascinating not only for me but for everyone in the city. The part in the essay that really caught my attention was when Palma talked about Fullerton not wanting to attract “the wrong crowd” to the city. I do not really know the history of Fullerton but it seems to me that there was some sort of racism going on back in that time. Back then not all races were accepted and racism was a big problem. Again, I do not have much knowledge on the city but my guess was that Fullerton was not known for its hospitality for other races which caused the city council to have doubts on this museum. I believe that they felt like this museum would attract a lot of people and it would cause a lot of conflict between people in the city. Hopefully that was not the cause but I wouldn’t know.

    Fullerton made a big mistake by not having this museum in their city but if the city council today could go back during 1960, they would gladly accept Norton’s offer with no hesitation. They missed out on something big for the city but I am sure something like this will not happen again. I think its up to the community to also step up and have a say in decisions like this. If the community stays quiet and does nothing to get what they want then they will miss out on many more things like the museum. Norton Simon Museum would have been great and I would have given it a visit if it were here in Fullerton. Sadly it is not here and we must look for new things that will make this city more diverse.

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  26. Shayda Hashemi
    English 103
    Tues/Thurs 7:00-8:25 am

    It amazes me to how much Fullerton residents and councilmen opposed such a plan that I would have found to be very eye opening. I don’t understand why the city wouldn’t want to open their eyes to something that could possibly change things for the better and open their eyes to new ideas and creations in this world. Simon was only trying to share this art work with the city that he loved the most, and was shot down. I can only imagine how heartbroken he must have been about having to move his project elsewhere. Fullerton could have been a spot where many people came so they could view such beautiful art, but now it can’t happen because of the bias of the city on opposing the idea. I believe it would have been a good idea, being able to be in the presence of such beautiful works of art can really show a person what someone can do and how extraordinary things can turn out with such a talent. The fact that Simon didn’t get to have this museum opened in his home town is heartbreaking, but at least he got to have it opened up in general. In the end, I believe its Fullerton’s loss with declining the museum in the first place. Fullerton may not have wanted to have a museum opened in their city, they may have had different plans for the future, but I don’t think they would have regret it if they did end up opening the museum and going along with the idea in the first place. No one really knows the real reason to this day, but in the end the museum is up and running in Pasadena. Simon had such priceless pieces of art, and he could have shared it with his hometown but they didn’t want it. It really shows me how closed minded Fullerton can really be. Why would they want to pass up an offer that has so much history behind it? He wasn’t asking for too much, only to share what he had. He had even offered to buy homes so he could make room for these works of art, but Fullerton declined. It makes me wonder what else Fullerton may have been offered that could have really been a good thing for the city, but they declined because it was too modern? Or it just wasn’t what they wanted? I believe that change is always good, and this would have been good for Fullerton. It could have been a city known for the priceless artwork that they had, but even though it wasn’t approved, the museum is standing tall in Pasadena where it’s appreciated most.

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  27. Luis Ponciano
    ENG 103
    T/TH 7:00am
    As I read the article I was surprised by the reaction taken by the Fullerton community, Simon had already gifted a library to the city of Fullerton and already displayed many of the pieces of his collection, the only difference would have been converting the library in to a museum and making it the permanent home for his collection. It seems to me like Simon really cared about the Fullerton community and it would have been a great honor to have a museum housing his great collection of modern art. Pieces from such artist as Picasso, Van Gogh, and Degas are rare wonders that you don't come across very easily. Many other cities would have been happy to have such an opportunity. It is somewhat disappointing to read about such a mistake. I personally feel like we don't have enough museums in Orange County and this article makes me wonder how it would have been to have the Simon Museum in Fullerton instead of Pasadena. I believe the museum would not have lost the city any money and might have even profited Fullerton because it would have attracted art enthusiasts and even the average person creating a market for local tourism. The Art was already very valuable in the mid 20th century and art is one of the rare items that only gains more value with time. Nowadays that collection would be priceless and a gem for the city of Fullerton, it would have been a “must see attraction” where people could go with family or friends during their leisure time and enjoy beautiful masterpieces of art, sadly that was not the case and instead the city of Pasadena took advantage of Fullerton's mistake. The arguments presented by the opposition were silly and feel just like excuses for not building the museum, it seems outrageous to believe a bus depot is more important than something as a educational as a museum especially when Simon had offered to pay for its construction. I hope our community doesn't repeat such a mistake if a similar opportunity ever arises. It is unfortunate that the museum did not end up in the city of Fullerton but it is still wonderful that Simon was able to build his museum close enough to drive to it from Orange County. I have actually never been to the Simon Museum but now that I know a little more about the history of the Museum I really want to pay it a visit and view the art for myself.

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  28. Irene Cabrera
    English 103
    Tuesday/ Thursday
    7:00 AM
    It is surprising that Fullerton did not accept Norton Simon Museum and I think it was a great loss. There could have been an amazing collection of art by Picasso, Van Gogh, Vermeer, Degas and other artists, all in one place. When this piece mentioned that they could not afford to have security for this place, I realized that it was just an excuse. They could have charged a small fee at the entrance or they could have fundraised the money. Simon already donated a place to create the Norton Simon Museum. He was going to purchase houses on the same street to make more room. They could have pulled it off. Because Fullerton rejected the idea of the Norton Simon Museum, he decided to take it to Pasadena. I thought it was a great idea, because at least people still get to see these amazing art pieces.
    At the end of this piece it says that it might attract the wrong crowd. Of course it was going to attract different kind of people, but they couldn’t be sure that it was going to attract the wrong people. It seemed to me that they were just making excuses not to build the Norton Simon Museum. It is understandable to some extent because some art pieces are very controversial and at that time, the people were more conservative.
    It would have been nice to have an art museum in Fullerton. Looking at painting and sculptures would have expanded our way of thinking because many people interpret the same piece of art differently. One could also see how paintings have changed over time. You could also all the different cultures and the history behind specific paintings. Art is just another way to view the world and I think Fullerton really missed out by not creating the Norton Simon Museum.

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  29. Michael Tenorio. T/Th 7-8:25AM. Eng 103.

    The thing that struck me as interesting was the rumor that you discussed in class this morning. You mentioned that in Fullerton around the 1920s there was Klu Klux Klan groups with social position who hated on Catholics and Jews. Now this isn’t a confirmed fact, but you heard an art teacher mention that there were perhaps some anti-Semitic comments were made and that is why he left. All the articles that are uploaded on here simply talk of bureaucratic issues, like not being able to afford the extra security guards, and the buying of people’s houses and blah, blah. I kind of believe the former tale more than I do the latter. Simply because I know people, especially in business, are highly emotional. Even though the age old saying is, “keep emotion out of business,” or “business and emotion don’t mix,” or something along those lines. Either way people are highly emotional, even more so when you tell them not be emotional. I think it’s incredibly unfortunate if that is the true reason why Simon had to move to his museum. The fact that it’s so far from home is a bummer, too. It could’ve taken only 15 minutes to go see one of the most amazing collections around, but now it takes 30-45 minutes and that’s without traffic.
    I had the privilege to visit the Norton Simon Museum last month. It was a great experience, and the cool thing was that with my student ID I got in for free. Interestingly, when I first pulled up to the museum it actually looked fairly small. Even walking inside I didn’t expect it to be as extensive as it is. There were so many paintings and sculptures; I didn’t know where to begin. The self-portrait of Van Gogh was amazing, and then Monet’s and Manet’s were breathtaking. All of the Degas’ sculptures scattered around the museum were really great to see. The sculpture garden was especially peaceful, and there were two of them. They had an Asian/Eastern sculpture garden as well as the entire floor dedicated to the Eastern art. Such a beautiful museum and it could’ve been right in our backyard. I hope someday soon that there will be grand museums in the small cities that make up Orange County. These cities have small but strong art and music communities waiting to be lifted and shown in the spotlight.

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  30. Jeremy Cowser
    tue/thur: 7am

    From having an opinion about this passage i have learned is that there are many great areas in the city of Fullerton. From being architecture and having all the tourists seemed to have a happiness towards those great moments. The City of Fullerton may have lost a great portion of the city but it feels like that since 1960. It is inconvenient that Fullerton did not make a museum because the city seemed to be one of the oldest building and have a great sense of background inside the museum as well to this day. With regarding the city council being passed, I do not understand why it should be more less understanding in the museum in Fullerton. With all these different types of arts, it intrigues me and my fellow neighborhood in the city of Fullerton. This essay has brought my attention when not pursuing the "wrong" way into the city. As for the city knowing the history of Fullerton, it needs to know that these experiences has brought some type of racism on back into time of knowing its a bad thing to do. Having the urge to be racist is a hurtful thing for peoples acceptance and racism is a big problem but, however; beleiving in ones thought takes alot of guts like having a picture in a museum sculpture that makes people certain it is racist or to the city of Fullerton. In my opinion it just makes people so "certain" that it maybe a big "deal" for others.

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  31. Jesse Aguilar
    English 103 T-TH 7a.m.

    Wow! Fullerton turned down the biggest investment they could’ve had. Reading the article was surprising to know that the best painting, art work, sculpture, etc could have been right here in the city of Fullerton. Artist (Picasso, Pissarro, Gorky, Goya) art work could have been displayed in the City of Fullerton. Who knew that Fullerton had that kind if history behind it. I’m not trying to offend anyone, but I feel the residents in Fullerton deny everything. For example, they deny building a stadium here at Fullerton College. The money was there and the plan was ready to go, but Fullerton residents didn’t want to go forward with it. They said they didn’t want the lights, noise, cars, any little excuse not to have the stadium. What didn’t make sense was there is two stadiums right next to each other; the Cal State Fullerton Stadium, and the Fullerton District Stadium. I feel like the residents ask for too much.

    Professor LaTour mentioned in class today that the KKK was involved with the decision.It made sense why the Fullerton Board denied Norton Simon Art Museum; Norton Simon was Jewish. I just wonder what could have been if the art museum was in the City of Fullerton. Anaheim is my hometown and it has history behind it. I went to Anaheim High school and that school itself has rich history behind it. I remember reading a book on the history of Anaheim. One section of the book was on how the streets got their name. Another section was the old building, bomb shelters, people, residents, etc. I was really interested in the book. The city of Fullerton should be open minded and let art be appreciated. Art has been around for hundreds of years and would stay for years to come.

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  32. Karina Esparza
    English 103
    MW 8:35
    I have always been a big fan of art, just looking at painting or certain sculptures really makes me think how amazingly gifted some people are. Most of the good museums are quite far from where I live and when I was reading this article and read how they were thinking of putting one in Fullerton really caught my attention. Art is a nice way for someone to express themselves or to show the world how they feel or enjoy doing, I feel as if there is no harm in art. When reading the article I saw a sentenced where it talked about many people in Fullerton were very reserved and felt that a museum would bring the wrong crowed. I don’t see how art can bring the “wrong crowd” what is the wrong crowd? This art museum would have been a nice thing to have for the people in orange county that are art major or thinking of going into that department, this would have given them an opportunity to look at these beautiful art pieces for ideas or inspiration one on one and not just through a book. Feel the city of Fullerton let go of a really good opportunity all because of insufficient funds for the security, I am sure there must have been something they could have done to receive some sort of income/donations to keep the museum running and secure. Norton Simmon had a good idea, a good vision for Fullerton but many people did not take advantage of this great opportunity and decided to just throw it away. As I was reading this I was in shock most of the time trying to figure out how some people can be so closed minded to good ideas that can benefit so many people. At times people want everything handed to them or given to them for free but at some point we have to meet each other half way if we want a good idea to work. Simmon was willing to put his valuable collection of art out there for others to benefit from them and he even offered to put in some of his money for this idea and still the city council denied this. The city council was able to see what great turn outs the art had in art openings and still they felt the idea of having a museum for these art works was a waste of time.

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  33. Olivia Santos
    English 103
    M/W 8:30-10
    It’s a shame that Simon Norton didn’t get to see his dream come true. A museum in the City of Fullerton would have fit in perfectly. There aren’t that many museums in Orange County, so it would have been a great attraction to the City, rather than having people go to Fullerton for other reasons such as going out to the bars. I think the council made a mistake on passing up a wonderful idea. The council could have given him a chance whether it made a lot of business or not. Just by looking at all the pictures, he had great art to show off. I think more people would have appreciated art. Simon had some well-known artist’s paintings and to have them up in the City of Fullerton, it would have drawn attention. It’s too bad because he offered so much money; I wish the council would have specified why they wouldn’t go through with the museum. I’m a bit curious on how it would have turned out if there was one today. I guess its Fullerton’s loss now. I can understand why Simon picked up and left with his work, but I do wish he would have fought a little harder. If he really wanted to see his work up in his hometown, he should have kept pushing till Fullerton approved. I believe you have to fight for what you want. It’s too bad Fullerton never came around though to give him what he wanted. I think the museum would have attracted a lot of people considering there are a lot of attractions in Orange County, such as Disney Land, Knott’s and the beaches.
    When reading about “Post suburban California” a lot of little things amazed me. I’ve lived in Orange County and worked in the cities of Fullerton and Orange and from what I had read so far I would have never guessed some of the history behind it and how Orange County slowly evolved. I found it pretty interesting that Orange County was once party of Los Angeles and over the years, Orange County started to expand because homes were cheaper before. It also kind of amazes me how Orange County has one the top best economies in the world.

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  34. Rianna Russ
    English 103
    MW 08:35-10:10 am

    It truly disheartens me to find out that Fullerton’s City Council rejected such a beautiful and culturally enticing exhibit. I believe that the Norton Simon Museum would have been an exceptional addition to the Fullerton community, and given it the pop of character that it needed- especially back then. It shocks me to know that the city of Fullerton was once so prudish and uptight, and pretty much felt the art pieces were too “edgy” and unacceptable. The Fullerton that I know today is much more artistic, and open minded. In current downtown Fullerton, you can hardly turn one corner without passing an art museum, art exhibit or tattoo shop of some sort. I believe the city would have majorly benefited from having the Norton Museum as a product of its environment, and I am willing to bet that the City Council of the 1960’s still regrets that decision to this day. I do not blame Simon for taking his ideas elsewhere and making it possible for the Norton Simon Museum to be able to call Pasadena, CA its permanent home. I feel that the city of Fullerton contradicted itself by rejecting the idea, because years later the city now is completely full of art and everything that the unique museum stood for back in those times. I also believe that rejecting the museum was a big mistake economically as well. Had the city of Fullerton accepted the museum, it could have been profiting income from it and reaping the benefits of its many customers and visitors. Also, I feel that the museum could have drawn more attention to the city of Fullerton, and been more of a vocal point for popular tourist attractions. Overall, I just hope that Fullerton, as well as surrounding cities have taken a close look at the outcome of this situation, and have been able to learn from the mistakes of the past. I have never been one to reject new ideas, and I do not think it was right for the City Council to do so either. In order to grow as humans, as well as a community, we have to have the freedom to express ourselves, and to have open minds toward new ideas- that is the only way anything will ever have a chance of progressing and advancing. There is no “right or wrong” when it comes to the beauty of art, and I personally want to take a trip to visit the Norton Simon Museum myself.

    Rianna Russ
    English 103
    MW 08:35-10:10 am

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  35. Won Choi
    English 103
    Tuesday/thursday 7:00am

    The article, "How Fullerton Lost the Norton Simon Museum," explains Norton Simon's achievements and shows why his museum was in Pasadena, not in Fullerton. After watching this article, i decided to go to the museum in Pasadena. In two years studying abroad in Fullerton, it was hard to know and border how the history in Fullerton and near cities is. I considered City of Fullerton is so artistic, especially Downtown Fullerton, but after reading this article, i guess it would be much better if Simon's achievements were in Fullerton. Consequently, it is so interesting story for me, who really like art. However, i don't regard that Art of Fullerton is insufficient rather than different regions. There are many great museum and exhibits even though it could not catch the chance to hold Simon's achiebements. In my experience, when I come to Fullerton from Los Angeles, i felt that the city was peaceful and developed for art. The reason that i move to Fullerton was also same.

    Similarly, in chapter 1 of "Postsuburban California" Rob kling, Spencer Olin, and Mark Poster show carefully how Orange County has been changed. It is very specific to represent the changes about various areas such as politics and culture and economic in limited regions in Orange County.

    Both two articles show in common what happens in Orange County. It is very helpful for international students like me, who do not know exactly how Orange County was changed and what important events or things are in Orange County. As they know the changes and issues, they can be more familiar and easier to learn a lot in Orange County. Jesse La Tour seems that he want his students to know exactly a lot only in limited region, Orange County. I really like his idea. i think students are not necessary to write only about general topic like society issue or global warming. it can become too wild topic. As a special region, Orange County, student can become specific for writing and practice. Moreover, Most people cannot know history and story of all region. As knowing Orange County exactly, it will become more benefit to know the region which we live in. Therefore, according to this class, i do not only learn how to write specifically, but also learn how Orange County was changed and what important events are in Orange County to live in Fullerton more comfortably.

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  36. I did not know that at the Fullerton hunt branch library had those important art work from the best artist. I like the idea of having an art gallery. I went to Pacific Drive Elementary School and we would always take trips to the library and check out books. I could say that it was my favorite thing to do. I enjoy going to the Hunt Branch library. After reading that article that made me pretty upset because we could have enjoyed those beautiful masterpiece and in Fullerton. I live only 5 minutes away from the Hunt Branch library and if they would have the gallery still I know I would go more often. I think people would go to the library more often as well. Fullerton would be known and people would travel to come and see the gallery. May be the neighborhood would be different as well. I do not agree that the city council just made that sudden decision. I don't know why neighbors would not want that. In the reading in chapter one it explains the development of Orange County and in the late 1960s it starts to grow productions of food and goods. I guess not enough focus on art in society .
    Elouise Hernandez
    English 103
    Tues/Thursday 7am

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  37. Dong Yeob Lee
    English 103
    T/R 7:00am-8:25am

    At first, after reading this article it was interesting to know about the history that happened here at Fullerton. I moved to Fullerton three years ago, but I did not had the chance to look around what is in my community and the history of the city too. Also, after reading this article, "How Fullerton lost the Norton Simon Museum", I think it is very unfortunate to watch that back in history the city of Fullerton opposed to open the Norton Simon Museum. In my opinion Norton Simon wanted to exhibit artworks to the city of Fullerton in order to let residents of Fullerton could enjoy various pieces of artwork from famous artist closer. It is a shame people cannot appreciate these artworks and could not have take a glance at painting done by famous artists like Van Gogh, Picasso, Vermeer, Degas and etc. If Norton Simon Museum was not opposed and open to the public, I think it will be a great for people to identify the culture of their city, and learn the history of it.

    It is very unfortunate that during the 1960's, Fullerton was a very conservative place and, city council and some residents in the city opposed to set The Norton Simon Museum. The perspective of many people during the 1960's were different than today's society. And even thought, Norton Simon have gifted a lot of money to the city and planned to buy some houses to build the museum, the city denied his plans. The city of Fullerton could have been a better city if Norton Simon Museum was in place. Many people would had the chance to look at the paintings and also it would have helped educationally to the community.

    Getting to know more and more about the history of Fullerton is another entertaining point that I realized after reading this article. I started to live in Fullerton three years ago, but I was very unaware what was going on around my neighborhood. Also, I realized that I have to be more adventurous and go out some places that I have never been before in the city, instead of staying at home when I have free time. And as I started reading the book, "Post suburban California", I get to know more about Orange County and its history. Learning how the community have been developed through ages it is an important thing that I should know as a resident of the city.

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  38. Thank you for the memories. I was a teenager in an artistic family, living barely a quarter mile from the Hunt branch library. I went there every day after school and did my homework. I remember all those paintings. I also remember my mother and her artist friends lamenting the city's loss of the museum. I have visited the museum he eventually built in Pasadena, loved it.

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